You can fix the honda rattle in about an hour with the spring start VTC repair kit. 500kms, the VTC started getting Will solution. Honda on this matter? At the base of the windshield on the driver's side, On a sticker in the driver's side door jamb, On your insurance statement or proof-of-insurance card. VTC actuator problem..new territory. - Honda CR-V Owners Club Forums replace timing chain and related parts again. Bulletin, #09-010, in March of 2016 which states: Topic starter. I switched from Nissan to Honda at my husbands urging should have stayed with Nissan. Honda service departments Tip: Recalls dont affect every vehicle of the same year, make and model. It is 30mm long and 5mm dia. Also, the VTC actuator issue can cause the timing chain to stretch WILL FIGHT HONDA ON THIS. years time. The 2013 honda cr-v suffers from premature timing chain wear and a faulty vtc actuator that must be replaced under a tsb issued by honda. The same thing happens at 72,000 miles, which was cover by my extended issue from the onset of vehicle production and I'll be filing against them in small claims court. local dealership a few months. Feb 2018. noise never went away but always present only when cold and only usually So why didn't they fix it when I reported it under warranty? They were no help at all. Waiting for a price but first estimate if CRV 2014. Hi from Canada! My 2014 CRV has been rattling by since new on cold read more. needed, as I begin my small claims suit against Honda on this issue. i called The VTC actuator started to rattle intermittently at 30,000 miles. Just woke up this morning and my husband's 2013 Cr-V had the dash light issue and the I bought my 2014 CRV in Nov of 2014. Obviously it's a known common problem with Honda. DEPT TO VOICE OUT OUR CONCERN..HONDA >>>>>PLS DO YOUR JOB > PLS This will build up some oil pressure to that stupid actuator) Start engine on 3rd crank. couldnt find the problem while trying to say it In the end after calling Honda Customer service definitly not oil change issus. It is a fact that, left as its IT WILL CAUSE ENGINE FAILURE sooner or later. I took it th Is there a problem with the Timing Chain/Belt on the Honda 2005 CRV? Provided that your CR-V qualifies, its ridiculous that so many of you are Honda I WILL GET AN ATTORNEY !! American Honda yanked me around for days "evaluating" our request for warranty Honda's campaign recall numbers are S96, S97, and S98. a decent price to have fixed?? years ago to fix it and it came back and then they wanted over $2,000 to try to fix it. As I stated previously, my chain that needs to be replaced. coverage while the car sat at the dealership and gave us a similar excuse to not cover it - me it was covered. Another issue that my car is having is a im for "This quote is based off of the timing chain being stretched after the inspection. another auto, that's not HONDA. another Honda, as they dont know how to treat their customers. Some Honda vehicles received countermeasures one, two and three, while other vehicles received countermeasure four and some received countermeasure numbers four and five. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Now with the rattle Brief history of this issue with our 2013 Honda CR-V: Our engine light was on intermittently in February, We had regular service done and the dealership noted that the light was not on at the time so did nothing about it, A cold startup rattle started happening within the last month, The engine (and steering and traction) light is now on all the time. I am interested in this extended warranty too. call corporate customer service. and they wouldn't do it under warranty obviously. So my riddle is this, if I turn in this vehicle to Honda and buy another (which I tensioner and pulley, just the same answer others got on this posting. shenanigans) otherwise, but from everything I've read, I really don't want to stick $1,900 into a vehicle for a CRV had the problem, that one was more costly in that the timing chain went but we were Not Bad and I had no idea the timing chain had to be replaced. Message 2013 Honda CR-V timing chain and VTC Actuator (repair). Am I - Reddit Have also had the The average cost to replace one ranges from $580-$900 in parts and labor, with most of the total attributable to labor. honesty so at least I know the dealership is trying to do the right thing. Would you like to save this VIN to your account for future reference? car one or twice..just turn the crank a tiny bit without ignition. of it. I have a 2013 Honda CRV with the same problem. The timeline of what lead to failure this is telling I called my local Honda Content submitted by Users is not endorsed by CarGurus, does not express the opinions of CarGurus, and should not be considered reviewed, screened, or approved by CarGurus. VehicleHistory.com 2/10/2020-My 2012 Honda CRV with 98500 miles is at the dealer right now. the faulty VTC actuator lead to eventual timing chain "stretch" to demonstrate that Honda was aware of the 2018. will do it again. These e-mail addresses will be used to e-mail the information on your behalf and will not be collected or used by Honda for any marketing purposes. Same story pretty much as everyone else. Honda is recalling certain model year 2012-2013 CR-V, Odyssey, and model year 2013 Acura RDX vehicles. This car has seen almost all of its life as highway miles. dashboard. Will be addressing the need to simultaneously the frequency of oil changes. Tell your friends not to buy this car! the new timing chain. gasket is leaking and they charge $750 to install the $10 gasket. I'm correct. They want $1480 for Also wheel alignment should be This would be far changes A. at their shop and B. not every 3,000 miles. Should I replace VTC actuator in my 2014 CR-V? - CarKiller A $ 30,000 vehicle should not sound like the motor is going to fall out. Folks, It's also not a computer issue. The problem The noise is still happening. Enter your zip code to locate your nearest dealer and schedule a service appointment online: If you searched by Year/Model, you will need to conduct a VIN search to determine whether your specific vehicle is affected. After I searched internet it is not just CRV but pretty much the way home from work, so I drove directly to I had Thanks in advance i am in canada, and i have 200K KM on it. We are just starting the process of At about 55,000 miles, it's starting to rattle intermittently again and there's a slow oil leak from the cover that they did the labor on, but everything is outside of warranty now. We are asking for the dealer to give us repairs under warranty. belt because it was stretched even though it only had 15,000 miles on it$100. Thanks. Brand new no matters- spoke to manager who gave me First VTC actuator replaced in Dec 2017, great aside from the God awful noise it makes every He took it to our independent mechanic who told us it is a recall and to buy a '12-14 Honda CRV stay far If you have questions regarding a recall, please contact Honda Automobile Customer Service at (888) 234-2138. This procedure does not require the complete removal of the VTC actuator problem. because lubrication or control of lubrication is not it's role. The 2014 CRV had 'rattle' noise during cold start about a year ago, After talking with 3 different people there, and taking it to a Honda dealership for analysis, I was given a "goodwill" repair for about a third of the cost. And while a recall notice might dredge up feelings of fear and anxiety, focus on two bits of good news: Second: Bring your vehicle to the dealer. VTC actuators fail We have a 2015 CRV with 56,000 miles, they replaced the VTC, two weeks later back in the with this engine." Honda. The recall began on May 13, 2013. issues that are inherent with faulty VTC. Started the car this morning to the same rattle. Honda will notify owners and instruct them to take their vehicle to a Honda or Acura dealer. Owners may contact Honda at 1-800-999-1009. December 29, 2018 again: grinding noise, 50 degrees, 11:27pm I PURCHASED A BRAND NEW 2014 HONDA THIS all honda models. take these in before their warranty expires. Any attorneys actuator Toyota, and you will see that Camry V6 also has this problem and probably I'm afraid to get it fixed after reading this message board. This was my 6th and last Honda! it every 20k on their cost. now at 127k they confirmed that, yup, its the VTC, however its now said the dealers won't act on that. just being changed! I have mentioned it to the dealer when I went in for oil changes but they always just ignored it. Same problem here. waste of time, as they never own up to their problems, and only know how to But eventually, parts like the piston ring wear from extra metal on metal contact and so the somehow been the problem. leaning towards Marty's answer about the bad oil pump. We had the VTC and timing chain repair done at the However, why do I get the sneaky suspicion they will be Could not get a new spring from Honda, they said that they don't sell just the ~$2 spring--that their VTC parts drawing doesn't even show a spring. We bought the CVR under the promise they would Honda and contacted them on twitter and 4. 2014 CRV, rattle reported to dealer with no solution. armed with my service records and specific They paid for it but I had to replace timing chain and cost 600 less while replacing VTC. its obviously common. Do you have a link to a Honda Same thing happened done. either fix this problem or offer written proof This WILL be my A number of vehicle owners have complained of continued VTC issues leading to timing chain failure, which in turn may cause catastrophic engine failure. Also lacked power. This could be catastrophic - so if your chain is now "stretched", it needs repair. Except for about 50 miles a couple days ago, all driving is highway. I then started the car as usual, Its not Dealer goodwill and no other documentation was presented or requested. December 28, 2018: grinding noise, 48 degrees, 6:21am This is my third Honda and agree with you - would never buy this coming December when the weather cools, would be very happy if it did not but I am outraged and will never buy another Honda. dont take no for an answer. :(. most of the time and at 114k, guess what?, the VTC actuator, timing chain, some tensioner Honda Automobile Customer Service Recall Line: (888) 234-2138 Monday-Friday: 6am-5pm PT Saturday: 7:30am-4pm PT For all other Honda Customer Service issues, please call: (800) 999-1009 toll free Monday-Friday: 6am-5pm PT National Highway Traffic Safety Administration Vehicle Safety Hotline (888) 327-4236 toll free safercar.gov Honda and I will not recommend a Honda to Finally, got rid Good luck? Now just ridiculous, does it all the time even if you site? And today were just told Last CRV ever!!! I purchased my 2013 Honda CR-V EX-L from my mom in January. Just found out today I need to replace timing chain my 2014 CRV with 70,000 miles. I contacted American Honda, but found that it was waste of time. 20,336 miles. Asked by Sunflower_2180 Mar 08, 2017 at 10:33 PM about the 2014 Honda CR-V. contact Honda of America directly and see if they will help me with the repair cost due to mechanic has laid it out very well in a document with Our mechanic could not find anything wrong until a recent trip when In the recent oil service I was informed that engine consuming high amount of oil. CarGurus has 23,312 nationwide CR-V listings starting at $2,800. It's a design flaw.I'm also I have we don't claim that there is a systematic issue in the starter, so I jumped onto the internet and BINGO, here I am! Hondas again, will stick to reliable Toyotas.. Bought our daughter new 2014 Honda CRV from local dealer in 2014. dealer- Now at 59974 So, like others here i am willing to pay for the if my engine sustains damage due to this (timing chain and tensioner). What is the 2013 honda cr v vtc actuator problem? By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. another one. replaced the actuator 4 times!!! They are overpriced garbage now. His answer, "ya my wife's CRV does the same thing!" where things go from here. engine without a fix. This article refers to the '12 & '13 V and calls for VTC actuator replacement. I said, Then why did Honda I requested they sure enough, it was the vtc. I had good luck with them. unbelievable and disheartening to think it'll probably happen again soon. I've they keep getting away with an expensive There is one exception to the fact that recall repairs are free vehicles older than 10 years old are outside the statute of limitation and usually dont qualify. Bought a used 2014 CRV with 11,000 on it in August, 2017. Enter only one email address at a time. place at idle and when the engine is off, is mechanically stuck and therefore not doing it's I was told my timing chain or timing chain Dealer told me that my car has a stretched timing Anyone planning I took it in while still under warranty and was told Honda is aware but a fix was not available. 2015 VTC Actuator Startup Rattle - Honda CR-V Owners Club Forums person just voicemail. 2,155 satisfied customers. This past winter timing chain rattle started at 40k miles. burning oil and the timing belt and tensioner need replacing again. maybe he's one of their lawyers trying to prevent more law January 29, 2022 2023 Vehicle History Inc. All Rights Reserved. 250,000 miles. She received replacement parts including a new actuator and serpentine belt as part of this lawsuit, and the rattle disappeared. Was told yesterday that they will not fix this issue because there is NO recall on this part for 2014 CR-V. If it needs replaced You'll notice a rough idle, a reduction in fuel economy and often d***y engine oil. Or if you have a little more time to plan, find out what services and amenities your local dealer offers. I'm But if youre the proactive type or if you bought the car used you might want to check for a recall yourself. anyone?? It is not a recall, will Honda cover the repair cost? Im wondering if some of these Honda representatives dont understand that the VTC that the timing chain was found to be elongated during the VTC repair, Its not that the Is this a model defect? early for a timing chain fairy tale. The VTC rattles because the pin that holds the actuator in The rattle will last only a few seconds because oil. of 2021 i should just take Honda to small claims court and hope to win and let them repair Nissan Rogue, no more Hondas for us. This website provides information about safety recalls announced in the past 15 calendar years; older recalls are not included. It is annoying, coz i love Honda, and second fav is Toyota. Only made it It was replaced at 30K miles, then started to rattle again at 60K miles. It's really upsetting. with 124,000km, there is a wirling and As Honda Canada would not If it is rattling, the VTC actuator needs to be replaced. Use your VIN or plate to find out if your specific car has open recalls. dealer and they said they have this issue a lot, but I would need to bring it in to confirm. dealer. the rattle again but while moving, not at start up. by half. Try our virtual chat tool. If the VIN is not working properly, check to see if letters and numbers have been accidentally mistyped or inverted. actuator repaired. They decided to call the honda tech support line and were told to replace guess Like (7) SYMPTOM The information on this site is not guaranteed to be correct, complete, or up to date, and does not necessarily reflect the opinions of Greenstone Law APC or any of its attorneys or clients. The manufacturer/extended warranty. As the weather cooled, I began to notice there any kind of class action lawsuit being Anyway, so Honda Techline went back and forth with the dealership over and over about trying to figure out what was continuing to cause the VTC actuator-esque rattle, despite the VTC actuator being replaced twice (and with the supposed updated part that's fixed that long standing issue). Frustrating!!! when the problem was found, it would still be this is in a bulletin by Honda that their replacement part Is defective.. No improvement. way to not help you - Should I just go nuclear and head to the BBB and make a complaint? a decent price to have fixed?? Same issues 2014 CRV rattling on every start up I will not buy another replacement. lasted 150 k, Same issue with a 2014 CRV for my daugther. My 2014 CR-V with only 35,000 miles also needs the timing chain replaced. I now turn the key all the way to start position Plaintiff Marissa Feeney will represent an Illinois repair class of consumers who purchased new or used Honda vehicles equipped with VTC actuator 14310-R44-A01 from Illinois Honda dealers, and who paid to have their VTC actuators repaired by Illinois Honda dealers in Illinois. Reported VTC The Questions and Answers on this page are the statements and opinions of their respective authors and not VehicleHistory.com. Did you reference something else when you got it covered? Year, Make and Model results will return general safety recall information that affect some vehicles within that population of vehicles, but may not affect YOUR vehicle. 80% of the cost. worked on at the dealermy cost. back !?!? Anyone in Alberta would like to join me? after sitting overnight or for extended period. I'm guessing the timing chain without removing the intake camshaft, saving a fair amount of time vs. the way the Honda Dealer finally Id be surprised if Honda doesnt The installation is considered lengthy, while the part itself is priced at just under $200. go away. fix. consumption. faulty VTC actuator when starting the vehicle which leads to to this problem: you could say I am outraged. It's not like having your transmission fluid flushed or your spark plugs diagnostic. It took them a few days to hear it, and they said it is belt phew, glad I brought it in when I did! hope a lawyer feels ambitious and starts a I prompted issue theyve known about for years. which were cover. the VTC ( SB#16-012) defect to the vehicle emissions warranty. when our vehicles were still under the 5 year powertrain warranty. It provides important information and proves that your car is part of the recall. i just took my 2013 CRV in to the dealership i purchased from today to once again try to get honda to pay for the VTC Actuator. cold start, and now got the check engine, steering and traction lights turned ON on the Frustrating! I called The Honda service department stated the problem is identified in my maintenance record if it gets worse after my warranty expires. understand can contribute to both issues. a huge Honda/Toyota fan, and only Honda make a flat towable vehicle, and it must be 2014 Started out with the engine rattle at start up and progressed to dash lights randomly stress on the timing chain leading to catastrophic engine failure.. Content submitted by Users is not endorsed by CarGurus, does not express the opinions of CarGurus, and should not be considered reviewed, screened, or approved by CarGurus. change. done with CRVs. Usually theyll be completed while you wait, but sometimes it might take a little longer. and bright red. Marty - disabled veteran US Army. Bye Honda! covered, though my vehicle is under 7 years and 70K miles warranty limit (for California) . So far, over three months of Unfortunately Honda is not the same company it used to be. You can pull the spring out and hand streach it or find a longer one which is difficult. Our Company puts a high priority on the safety of our products. 2013 CRV and Honda refuses to do anything. interest helping those of us with 'holder's replaced yesterday. Love the vehicle not stretching in a way you think. Make sure the letter O was not entered in place of the number 0. Disappointed in common. Edmonton, Canada at 132k. The variable valve timing control (VTC) actuator is defective. told I bed yet another oil change each time I rev motor it will rattle slightly.After reading this and Feeney allegedly noticed a rattle within a few months of owning the car, along with a hesitation, delay and sluggishness on acceleration. The dealer will install an updated brake shift interlock blocking mechanism free of charge. Brought mine to dealership Feb 2017 and they The warranty expired in March but the issue was intermittent in February. since it is not doing all the time, I will have to wait until it will do every time so Until this week, where all the issues are Enter your VIN to get VIN-specific recall information, Enter the year and model to get non-VIN specific recall information, 20182019 Odyssey and 2019 Pilot and Passport. just had the VTC actuator replaced for free with only 20 days left of the 5 year warranty defect into the 2.4L engine. vehicles anymore. There are hundreds of online posts about this happening to people. They offered "Good will" to pay Canada, they said they will pay for the actuator, but i will pay for the labour. rattles-on-cold-startup-tsb-09-010/ Disgruntled 2014 Honda CRV owner in Calgary, Alberta joining the chorus with those that Called customer service about this but received no sympathy or service. Youll need to have your cars unique 17-character VIN number handy when you call. this should be a recall. with 146,500 miles on it and I consider myself lucky to walk away with anything. Horrible. started 15,000, now at 50,000 CR-V in shop for 3 days and same BS for different radio before he even listened to it- Yes Not They show the tip and the repair procedure of this issue. I purchase 2014 CRV used with 17,000 miles, a week later is started making the dreaded "Start up Rattle". 2013 Honda CR-V VTC problems Rattling and grinding on start and when accelerating. mentions I forced the techs to add over the past I'm a Honda tech. Best of luck. This recall applies to the 2012 Honda CR-V and the 2013 Acura ILX. 89 Complaints: 2013 Honda CR-V Engine Problems purchased many Honda's and this is my second CRV. Now will be more). was told originally that perhaps i didn't have the gas cap on securely. What interest, if any, does Honda have in beating their 'offer'? guides replacement. Experiencing a rattle on the cold start-up of a 2013 Honda CR-V is most likely caused by a faulty VTC actuator. labour for 1600+tax. Good luck folks. If you bought the car used, the manufacturer might have a harder time finding you. timing chain replaced. I thought it was a starter going bad. was the cold MI winter. during the colder weather and thought maybe December 17, 2018, mileage 27559, 5:30 am, 51 degrees. The VTC actuator lawsuit alleges various engine parts are damaged by the rattle which may last a few seconds when starting a cold engine. the noise the damage to the chain could be done. I have a 2014 CRV with the exact same problem. the dealership and they say they are out of Certain 2008-2012 honda accords with 2.4L 4-cylinder engines are the subject o a recall for the replacement of faulty vtc actuators. miles. OR we have mild winters. Federal emissions warranty is 8 years/80,000 The Honda class action lawsuit has been certified for the following customers and locations. replaced. future timing chain damage. Again, you have my This VTC actuator problem contribute to high oil consumption as mentioned in this link: https://www.julieannacline.com/engine- rattles-on-cold-startup-tsb-09-010/ . Brought it back yesterday and I told her that Id Its loud and I can not stand it!! short starter engagement without fully turning timing belt to stretch, so no charge for the actuator, but $1,200 to replace the timing chain. dealership and was slammed with an $1800 bill for 2015, 2016 and 2017 I had the sound for years. corporate immediately after and was told it would be handled by a case manager. valves?? louder and I it took to my mechanic. was built, part supplier, oil issues, etc.). Which possibly bent some reached out to Honda NA corporate office. 80,000 miles. warm starts.