If you believe you have seen a mountain lion and want to report it to NH Fish and Game, please contact the Wildlife Division at (603) 271-2461 or wildlife@wildlife.nh.gov to request an observation report form. There have been several sightings of mountain lions in New Hampshire recently. Early in the morning. I can't. Patrick Tate: So I'm not sure what subspecies of cat they're using to differentiate by those markings but once she was describing the White other face in the black. She is renowned for tracking. Caller: And then there's the Lily Pond Road and then there's a six foot tall fence. I'm Peter Biello in for Laura NOI. Caller: Are probably. I just stood there just a second and I came to a complete stop and then I ran away. Almost all species disperse greater distances than females. So Michael follows with the question. Theres tracks everywhere. It's good to talk to you. And sometimes I've seen pictures of those where it's the question is What is that is that a bobcat. I just saw the head and the tail that was leaving. And here we're talking about in this situation we're talking about it migrated from the West. They sent it already. Love hearing these stories. And Rick Van de Poll naturalist and founder of ecosystem management consultants of New England. We'd be inundated with scouts in the past when newspaper articles have been written about DNA and scouts. Can you look into this picture. 19 So maybe a good pet for you but not for your neighbor if you just stop by unannounced. Peter Biello: And Carl before you continue I think Patrick Tate just give me a second. So here we have you know a very qualified biologist who who found a print took a plaster cast found a scat send it to a university. Patrick Tate: Well I've never seen an Easter cougar so I can't say when I've handled these 10 cougars and whatnot. The great thing about pictures isn't the animal itself it's the background. A monthly donation of $5 makes a real difference. The report came in from a conservation officer. Had great trees behind it beautiful ferns on the ground so it brought me down on the site and the ferns on the ground matched. So they're scary. Patrick Tate: Yes. Its actually fairly reasonable to believe that mountain lions do, at least, pass through occasionally. If youve got photo trap evidence of a Mountain Lion, send it in, and we'll send it along to the appropriate state or federal agency! It all used to be based on measurable physical traits color, skull size, paw size, etc but now its based on whether an animal can be shown to be genetically distinct from others. Caller: It had to be a mountain lion convinced I was about 30. And when provoked no animal could stand before him elegantly put. Patrick Tate: I don't believe it is. Mountain lions (especially males) have incredibly large ranges that they defend from rivals. 8 9 2 6 4 7 7. Theres a project called the Cougar Network that tracks verified sightings, and they are all around us: Massachusetts, Connecticut, Maine, New York and New Brunswick have all had verified sightings over the past 20 years or so. N.H. Residents Report Mountain Lion Sighting - NECN Sort of dropped onto the SD card of a camera he'd set up out in the wild. and territorial animals are much more inclined to create a problem with passer bys than dispersing animals in fact I'd be totally shocked if a dispersal would encounter with a human purposefully unless they had already had some type of training to do so. Despite numerous reports, the NH Fish and Game Department continues to have no physical evidence of mountain lion presence in the state. We mentioned that one cat that was hit by a car where it has it that it was a male looking for me. I'm Peter B yellow. So so they're just a very resilient species and they're pretty they're pretty neat. Rick van de Poll: Yes. We actually have the largest subspecies of bobcat in the northern part of our state which they can get up to 40 and over 40 pounds which looks like an 80 pound the animal to visually and quite large. So before we get to the the the the stories of sightings we're getting a lot of calls. Are these big cats back?Subscribe to WMUR on YouTube now for more: http://bit.ly/1lOjX9CGet more Manchester news: http://wmur.comLike us: http://facebook.com. Each person had their own copy and now it was identify the trees the species of tree matched. Despite numerous reports, the NH Fish and Game Department continues to have no physical evidence of mountain lion presence in the state. Sam Evans-Brown: Certainly that is a thing I've heard but again you have to think of the incentives involved here. Russ, from Sandwich (and Bedford) asks: In Sandwich New Hampshire, everybody has a story about seeing a mountain lion. So I certainly can't dispute anything that they said there's no evidence for me to go by to verify or say what my thoughts are on the situation. About Us Media Kit Calendar of Events Volunteer Visit Learn Events Membership Support Your Visit BUY TICKETS Know Before You Go Directions and Information Our Animals Live Animal Exhibit Trail Hours and Admission Calendar of Events And as the biologist who's gonna stand on this and if I'm going to say this is a proven picture I need to be able to stand on it so soundly and have the evidence so I going to go through it with a fine tooth comb kept picking pieces apart trying to answer these pieces. So Pat you field a lot of calls about people seeing or reportedly seeing mountain lions. Patrick Tate: I would say well when social media first started they picked up the hoaxes became much more prevalent in the last four or five years hoaxes have died down completely. And you know all that. I was a Bobcat we saw it and I have a picture of it. Patrick Tate: While a juvenile not a juvenile I guess if you want nodes to the base of the tail for juvenile that wouldn't be small at all. So for our scientists to do the lumping and whatnot. Peter Biello: When did you allegedly see a mountain lion. Ive received pictures of dogs at odd angles, says Tate. Post your sightings and NH photos here! Some of the reports that I looked into that were actually on file at the local fish and game office were even from people who did not live locally. You could trace that was this same cat from point to point to point. Do you want to see real, living mountain lions that do exist in New Hampshire. You know you have to have a license and it's hard to get that license a license to own a mountain lion. And so. I mean they're a survivor. You know interactions are pretty unusual. Patrick Tate: So one thing I'd say is DNA would definitely identify an animal animal's Mark line or not. Caller: Absolutely. Hunting is legal, but closely regulated by the state. We live around Cold Springs Campground and it was undeniably a mountain lion. So when we hear mountain lion there's also cougar there's wild cat there's Bobcat which is not a mountain lion maybe Patrick could you sort of spell out the different terms which are synonymous and which are completely different animals. John Holt's ideas were at first dismissed but he refused to be silent. Rick van de Poll: Rick van de Poll so I was a non-believer as well. Patrick Tate: So it's interesting it's brought up. Let's talk to Mike in Webster. A lot of times. I didn't see him online. Well within there. Patrick Tate: So the individuals can say that but for an agency that's based on science and what not to to go off with no evidence and then get into that giant debate and all these other issues and put credibility at risk I don't think that would be a great path to take. Mountain lions remain an enigmatic animal for residents of New Hampshire, with New Hampshire Fish and Game reporting three to five sightings per week. So I learned about what Rick just reported through a heart of heart of New Hampshire a letter and. No I saw a camel. Peter Biello: This is the exchange on an HD PR fine Peter Biello and today we're talking with folks who can tell us about the mysterious elusive mountain line and whether or not it is actually here in New Hampshire. Administrative Links. Deer Bear Moose Wolves Fisher Mountain Lions. So I think in that story there's there's something for the believers and the nonbelievers and I and you know Mark L. Brock is who is a gentleman with the cougar Network told me this story is evidence that that if they were here we would know about it. Women control our lives. They're just moving around freely. 'Like we did as kids': Horse makes snow angels with her owner in New Now again I don't know that there's anything to that. WMUR uLocal: On this trail cam video, an unidentified feline is spotted. Peter Biello: Ok weird question but do they make good pets. The Lions of New Hampshire: MD44 Links. Residents believe cougars still roam New Hampshire's forests. Sam. So so it is possible in Maine to still to to to have one but you have to be sort of professional handler as it were. WMUR NH Chronicle Mountain Lions in NH Part I and Part II. Mountain Lions in NH - Facebook So hard to know hard to refute if there's no interest in making up a story which many people of course do then I would respond the same way as Pat did. Thank you. This is a machine-generated transcript, and may contain errors. And I just said I saw I saw they from behind the shoulder all the way past the long tail. N.H.'s Fish and Game department says there's no proof mountain lions live in the state, yet residents from Bedford to Berlin have been reporting sightings for years. It's completely possible that it may have spent time in New Hampshire and went undetected but had it stayed in the area ultimately it would have been detected over time. The states never denied mountain lions are here, and theyve never admitted mountain lions are here. But no proof was offered. Yet this young male traveled about 1,800 miles. Today she talked with us a little bit before the show about why the mountain line is so compelling and why we want it to be part of our world. And we want to know your stories if you have them 1 800 8 9 2 6 4 7 7 or email exchange at an HP bar dot org we'll talk about conspiracy theories when we come back. Residents from Bedford to Berlin have been reporting sightings for years. Today, their range stretches from the Yukon Territory in Canada along the western coast of the United States, all the way to the Southern Andes in Chile. Yes. I would just suggest that in my experience as a reporter covering this covering this issue for a few years at least at what point do we reach a certain critical mass for lack of a better term of accounts where I'm not to suggest that you guys aren't taking this possibility seriously. No doubt in my mind it was. Really appreciate it. But also I think it proves the opposite point which is that sometimes they're pretty secretive because all the way from Minnesota where the where was the first time was picked up on a game camera to New York. Give us a call if you have a question or comments or story about perhaps seeing a mountain lion here in New Hampshire. The DNA the DNA that they were able to pull from the cat suggested that it was a dispersed mountain lion that came. There is some information that suggests that it spent a portion of its time in Massachusetts near the Claiborne reservoir. Pat do they typically just move around a lot. So I will just say this is a big reason why there have not been confirmed sightings I think is that the evidence required first. Lions Clubs Int'l Links: LionNet NH Links 2011 -2012 . I looked at the picture and asked me what do you see in the picture and I wrote back. The tail leave is a giveaway but not everybody gets to see the tail. Patrick Tate: Martin Like what about Panther Panther saying animals same animal and like a bit of trivia Guinness Book of World Records says the animal with the most names is in English alone they're supposedly 40 names for Mount lion. So what those ranges. He said matter of fact I do. If you missed part of today's program listen to the exchange. Mountain Lion | Squam Lakes Natural Science Center All exhibit and hiking trails are CLOSED for the season. Rick van de Poll: Absolutely. Just. Kyle I think about Rick Tate wants to jump in here. SUE Morse naturalist and science director for the organization keeping track. The best documentation we have in New Hampshire suggests there hasnt been a mountain lion killed by a hunter in this state since 1885. Patrick Tate: So I just got to throw a little interesting side note in this. But I was riding a mountain bike not far from my house. Gotcha, so the Deep State is suppressing mountain lion news in order to prop up New Hampshire tourism? Fish and Game then deny the evidence. Peter Biello: So Patrick today Fish and Game no downward pressure on you to deny the existence at all costs of mountain lions here in New Hampshire. Mountain Lions in New Hampshire-Fact or Fiction. Peter Biello: Oh okay. Peter Biello: Well yeah. And what was really remarkable about the whole thing was I was maybe a half mile down on all buildings. So what a neat experience. (Cue the X-Files music: The Government is denying the cougars exist!) This decision was primarily for nerdy phylogeny reasons, though, because the eastern cougar probably never existed. She quotes a biologist in Lyme New Hampshire who who is keeping two mountain lions himself so in the not too distant past in the early nineteen hundreds it was perhaps more common and still in Maine. Sandy Hodskins, owner of West Meadow Farm in Bradford, New Hampshire, took time from shoveling Wednesday to enjoy the snow with her horse, West Wind. He shifted gears in 2016 and began producing Outside/In, a podcast and radio show about the natural world and how we use it. His work has won him several awards, including two regional Edward R. Murrow awards, one national Murrow, and the Overseas Press Club of America's award for best environmental reporting in any medium. And today we're talking about the mysterious elusive mountain line with folks who know something about it. Sam Evans Brown. Me Im willing to believe its possible that there are some out there. We discuss what residents may have been seeing and what breeding mountain lion pairs would mean for our ecosystem. New Hampshire Public Radio | Peter Biello: So a little bit of nostalgia maybe for it for a better world embodied in the mountain lion. Sam Evans-Brown: I just want to say the bang and word you just heard I think to me exemplifies why it's really hard to come up with with positive you know 100 percent certain evidence that you've that what you've got is a mountain lions. You need you need either a really good photograph or you need you know fresh scat that can be sent to a lab out West that can they can be identified there. Peter Biello: Today on the program Patrick Tate New Hampshire Fish and Game Wildlife biologist and far better project leader Sam Evans Brown host of an HP podcast outside in which is about the natural world and how we use it. Theyve always said when we have verifiable evidence to say a mountain lion has been, is, or was in the state that wed acknowledge that and give that information out, says Pat Tate, the furbearer biologist with New Hampshire Fish and Game, who insists theres no conspiracy. So I just throwing that out there it's interesting. Peter Biello: Let's go to Mike in Epping. As recently as 2011 there was one young male mountain lion that cruised all the way from the black hills of South Dakota, up over the Great Lakes, down through New Yorkgetting spotted all. Mountain Lion report and as a biologist for the state that's a situation where if he said to me what did I see. Rick shaking his head so Rick now correct me please. The exchange is a production of New Hampshire Public Radio. OK. Rick van de Poll: Rick and I would add that if a mountain lion male takes up residence and successfully finds a female as pets there's gonna be a lot more evidence there will be like deer carcasses up in trees and territorial marking and claw marks and tracks and it you know dispersal is gonna be very tough to see or observed but residential parrots a totally different story. And I was probably about a half a mile from downtown all village on the right. Are there Mountain Lions in NH?
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