The quality of the loads equals a bargain. Powered by Invision Community, 125 grain plated flat point in 38 Special. A bullet with a copper gas check or copper plating is best for INDOOR ranges to keep lead vapors out of the air. These are hand loads.. load data was published in Lyman 50th edition.. Jack it up a notch and go with .327 Federal Magnum. A little shopping around might do better, as would casting the lead bullets. Enter 38 Special. The Speers do occasionally and the Magnus a little more. Thinking of using it in NRA Action pistol or PPC. Good job on you! The instructors worked magic in many cases, but having a load like this to gradually work shooters onto full-strength loads would have been a great tool. This wire is then fed into a machine called a cold header. Think that if a .44 spl. My sq. Wadcutters are tailor made for lightweight snubbie practice, allowing shooters to enjoy shooting the pocket guns. The use of .38 +P+ level (25,000 27,500 psi) type reloads, in .357 brass. I once rented a Ruger LCR in .38 Special. Disclaimer, I own or owned all the super calibers out there except the casull, theyre all fun and quite useful in some scenarios, but dont discount the old timer. Powder coating. I don't know what bullets you have, but Berry's recommends per their website to use hard cast data for their plated bullets. Beginners to shooting can use a full size revolver or their carry gun with light to mild loads to become confident and familiar with marksmanship and trigger control. The .38 Special remains very popular for personal protection and Michelle Hamilton shares her thoughts on the top loads for concealed carry, like this 158-grain SWCHP FBI Load, based on her testing. And, oh yeah. 38 Special Loads - Bullseye Forum The trigger has smoothed out over time. I have one that has been loaded about sixty times and it is still in use today. In 38/357 they don't list 105 gr bullets, but the do list 90's and 125's. Easy enough to extrapolate for a 105 grain . Ive saved all my .38 brass over the last couple of years for whenever I find time to get into reloading. Recoil is the good kind that reminds the shooter handguns are serious tools but without eliciting a flinch. Reloading Data for .38 Special - Load Data - 1895Gunner. But I would only be caught dead with one in my hands if I had to use one for self defense (pun intended). This. My best group was .9 inch out of a Model 15. Don't know of any bullets like that. If you're looking for a real light load that's easy to shoot, I'd just use WW's data for the W231 with a 125 gr. ( customer reviews) $ 10.69 - $ 246.00. Its the kind of load that will make you fall in love with the 1911 all over again! My experience has always been with bullseye powder. of Bullseye with Lee's 125gr RN mold in a 38 special with so-so accuracy. Now theres an old memory. 9 mm, .40 sw, 45 acp, .44 mag. Brass collection is easy since it doesnt eject. The bullets are seated flush in the case. A Forum dedicated to the sport of Bullseye shooting, Bullseye-L Forum::Ammunition Discussion, I'm looking for an accurate load using 125gr bullets. September 2015 S.W.A.T. The majority of my shooting with .38 has taken place with soft lead bullets. Josh Wayner is a Michigan native, active competitor, Grand Valley State University alumni, troublemaker, and fiction author. is so simple. Shot placement is just as important if not more. I have tested lots and lots of different bullet and found them all to be great. Very forgiving with a straight wall case, and tons of bullet variety. That being the case, I truly NEED as much ammunition as possible and the ability to defeat soft barriers such as auto windshields, sheet metal, drywall, doors, etc. Interesting. Alliant Powder - Bullseye I realized that I had hit a very special count for a very special cartridge: 20,000 rounds of .38 Special. This 1911 halved its normal so-so accuracy with 200-grain Hornady C/T SWC, shooting this nice two-inch group. Load data to make power factor 38 special - Revolver Forum - Brian Enos Reloading Data for .38 Special - Load Data - 1895Gunner I once had to quote the South Carolina Supreme Court when they had spelled it loathe., Regards, One cool load Im working on is two pellets of 000 Buck.. This would be for plinking for my wife's ~3" Rossi, so something light and fun to shoot would be great. But for plinking, they'd be fine. Most people have one general power level for their semi-autos due to the fact that the guns wont function with ammo thats not energetic enough to cycle the slide. Magtech Sport Shooting, 38 Special, 125 Grain, Full Metal Jacket, Flat, 50 Round Box 38Q 125 grain plated flat point in 38 Special - Forums Rules say (e) Ammunition- Any safe .38 caliber ammunition using the 158 grain round nose or Semi-Wadcutter bullet only. Most starting .357 reloading powder levels will fall in this .38 +P+ type reload, and the powder being used can be selected (faster or slower) based on barrel length. Even slower powders may provide more consistent speeds and will be tested in the future (No. New to Reloading-Unique powder recipes for .38 special These are put into a large hydraulic press and extruded into a continuous coil of wire. I just bought some 158 gr SWC bullets that are pure lead. I'm going to start with 3.8 grains. 4.0 gr. Any hotter and we get into a recoil issue. If you are new to reloading. 38 Special Loadings | Ruger Forum Bullseye 3.2gr / 763fps --> 4.2gr / 892fps (max) Unique 4.3gr / 773fps --> 5.3gr / 944fps (max) 231 3.9gr / 733fps --> 4.8gr / 896pfs (max) These are out of a 5.5 inch barrel Edited June 25, 2016 by jschweg Dr. Phil Classifieds 712 I can usually keep 1.5" groups with it at 25 yards if I do my part. I also find the LCR .357 enjoyable to shoot with all .38s and most .357s. The same volume of BE will weigh much more than than same volume of WST. If youre recoil averse (and dont have a disability of some kind), its because you havent shot it enough. 5 are good choices. Seems like everyone is all orgasmic about bigger, faster, more of, etc. HAVE FUN JP. http://www.alliantpowder.com/reloaders/Powder.aspx?powderid=1, I also have the Berry's 125gr plated flat point bullet and I am trying to find a min and max load with unique powder. I've tried 2.8, 3.0, and 3.2. It also shows that the loads were established using a 6" barrel, so regardless of what any published data shows, the chances of ever finding published data for the exact projectile and barrel length you are using, as well as the exact conditions you will be shooting in, would be nearly impossible. Super-Accurate .38 Super Loads - Shooting Times Congratulations on spelling loath right. Just depends on what kinds of loads you plan to shoot. Winchester's website has data for W231 and a 125 gr LRNFP, but not plated. Classic loads are economical. Some medium fast powders would work with lighter weight bullets. You can fit 7.1gr of powder under the 125gn JHP bullet? want me to write up an article about 3d printed .38 special bullets that Ive been working? The load you use will be up to your gun. The beauty of shooting a .38 is that you can easily practice at the ranges youd fight at using basically any cheap bullet at minimal expense. (Note H110 & W296 are the same as of 2008 as is HP-38 & W231), (IMR 4227 is same as H-4227 if made in Australia), * Blackhorn 209 is a black powder substitute with smokeless like qualities. it seems awful confusing, but with time you will be able to interpolate the published data into something that will give you good starting points to work up your loads. 10. I load a hard cast 125gn for my 38 special all the time. How Do I Choose Good Self-Defense Ammo For My Handgun? WAP, WMR, WSF, WSL, 760, 748, 231 and 540 are products of Winchester, Components Div. Winchesters 231 or WSL are also good powders for the .38 special. I think you will find since the .38 special is headspaced on the rim your case length is very important to achieve your best accuracy. The .44 spl. .38 brass isnt as common as 9, .40, or .45 brass at the range, but of all the revolver brass you can find its the most plentiful. By Most modern revolvers chambered for .38 SPL are rated to +P, so there is room for error, but care must still be taken. Thanks very much to LarryinTX for that! The mention of a Lee Loader somewhere above took me back to the good-old days. +P? I have done it with 38 special and 44 Mag, only to have a lead coated bore that looked like a rusty old drain pipe. Alliant Powder - Reloader's Guide was a breeze. Agree Problem with the J frame S&W is the grips. Understanding Reloading Formulas .38 Spl | Shooters' Forum In my area, Bullseye is one of the first powders to disappear from shelves, lasting about a heartbeat longer than an econo bulk box of .22 Long Rifle ammunition. I have found that if you go down too low in charge you will have some ignition issues occasionally. I have read some posts online from people who claim that it makes no difference whether the bullets are swaged or cast; and they can be loaded to the same velocity, but the swaged bullets will lead up a barrel faster because the lead is softer. You have entered an incorrect email address! 38 special was also my first cartridge to reload, and one of my greatest loves for reloading to this day. No sh!t. 9mm 125 gr RN Lead Cast Bullets for Reloading - Stateline Bullets Any discussion of Bullseye is incomplete without mentioning a few of the downsides. In half a dozen different sixguns, it ranged from accurate to spectacular. 2.7 gr. Many people tend to poo-poo .38 Special (standard pressure) for self-defense as being somehow underpowered. Hodgdons Clays, International, Universal and HP38 are good choices. When you could leave city limits and just about every dirt mound in sight, was a plinking range. Like Wobbly. I did find a 145 grain Lead HP with a rounded ogive (like the last NyClad) on Gunbroker that opens really well if you get above 800 fps. Recoil was so nasty that I quit after five shots and saved the rest of the box for my 6 Model 19 .357. 38 spl.s. I picked some up from my local Scheels yesterday. I almost spit out my drink when I read your comment. Hornady A gun on you always works better than the gun left at home. The Internet Pedant I am aware of the plated bullet limitations on BE accuracy and am more interested in them for their "plinkability". 125: 125: 130: 135: 140: 140: 146: 148: 158: 158: 158: 170 _____ Quick Links Home Load Data Bullet Points: BE SURE TO CHECK OUT & FOLLOW MY INSTAGRAM FEED CONNECT WITH THE 1895GUNNER.COM COMMUNITY . : 13,300 16,800 Starting Powder: 6.0 gr Starting Velocity: 1,266 It'll look funky, but it will shoot. Any pistol competitions yet? Boolit Grand Master. The swaged bullets are soft enough that they expand even at mild velocities where a JHP or hard cast cant. You can't rely on this because not all variables for YOUR cases and chamber and loading length, etc. Reduce by 10% to establish a starting charge weight. This Cast Reloading Bullet feeds great in automatics and has excellent accuracy in both the 9mm and 38 Super. WST for .38 special 125 gr plated bullets - Bullseye Forum Bullseye Handgun Powders Smokeless pistol powder Billions of rounds have been loaded with Bullseye since it was introduced in 1913. I started with a Lee Loader for my shiny new Python .357, because all the ammo I could find (in 1968) was lead semiwadcutters, loaded so hot they sloughed off the lead in the bore, so after a box you couldnt see any rifling, it looked like a smoothebore, and lord was it hard to clean!! Hodgdon's Basic Reloading Manual, (The free one, available for the asking. Damn. Hornady Then duplicate with reloads for practice. The .38 with careful selection of components can be the cats as* for almost any shooter. What I have found most remarkable is how well some pistols that typically fling wide groups have clustered the semiwadcutters. (See note on Powders below or read all about various Powders.). The 38 Special, practically snubnose 38 Specials, seem to do their best work with bullets right around the 155-160 grain range. Using bullets from Hornady HP-XTP, Hornady HP-XTP or FP-XTP, Hornady FP-Cowboy, Hornady HBWC, Hornady SWC-HP, SWC or LRN. Powder Bul Weight C.O.L. Thats not quite how that works. Notes: primer: CCI 500; case: Speer; NOTE: All loads are maximum. 6.) That isnt unique to Bullseye, but is certainly more pronounced with the relatively small charges required. In a 1909 vintage Smith & Wesson target .38, the 2.7-grain load cut a nearly one-inch cluster, showing that classics go well together. Through the heyday of bullseye shooting over the various match courses of fire, there was probably a Mount Rushmore-sized mountain of powder loaded and combusted 2.7 grains at a time.